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| Disciplining for Personal Hygiene?? | Lindsey Foskett | 20 Aug 08 |
| Re: Disciplining for Personal Hygiene?? | Paul Ball | 20 Aug 08 |
| Re: Disciplining for Personal Hygiene?? | Amanda K Smith, Clinical Director, Amian Employee Assistance Provider | 27 Aug 08 |
| Disciplining for Personal Hygiene?? | Lindsey Foskett | 20/08/2008 09:33 | |
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We have a lady who works in a large open-plan office with about 12 other people. Unfortunately this lady has a real bad body odour problem, which she has been spoken to about on several occasions during her time with the Company. She always promises to improve and insists she has no medical issues. Unfortunately there have been more complaints and her manager has asked me for advice, as the informal approach does not seem to be working. I'm tempted to tell him to make it formal and follow the Company's disciplinary procedures. However, I'm quite worried that if we do that and she still does not improve to the point where we've totally exhausted our disciplinary procedure where dismissal is the last remaining option, can we really dismiss someone for not taking care of their hygiene after several warnings? It is part of our dress code policy that all staff are expected to pay attention to their personal grooming and hygiene. |
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| + Re: Disciplining for Personal Hygiene?? | Paul Ball | 20/08/2008 15:11 | paulball@ eversheds com |
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Hi Lindsey, in short, yes the company could ultimately dismiss her for this. The reason for dismissal would be either "some other substantial reason" or "capability" - this is a situation that falls between 2 stools really. The key to a dismissal being fair would be that the procedure followed would have to be reasonable, including considering if there is any medical cause for her body odour problems - I can't think what they could be but its not out of the question. If you need any more guidance, feel free to email me directly. Good luck! Paul |
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| ++ Re: Disciplining for Personal Hygiene?? | Amanda K Smith, Clinical Director, Amian Employee Assistance Provider | 27/08/2008 16:18 | amandaksmith@ amian co uk |
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Hi Lindsey, Has the company got an Employee Assistance Provider (EAP)? As a counsellor I have had to deal with similar situations on a few occasions and I agree it can be awful for the people working around this lady. I do wonder as to her home situation as if somone comes from a home that is poorly managed by themselves or others they are often not aware of any odour as we become used to smells constantly around us. It may be that this person really does not realise how offensive the problem is or does not wish to discuss her situation with somone from inside the company. A management refferal or suggestion that she seeks assistance from your counselling provision may help. E-mail me if you need any further assistance. Amanda amandaksmith@amian.co.uk Amanda K Smith Clinical Director |
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